I tēnei putanga o Te Karere ka kōrero a Miki Apiti ki te ētita o Mana a Derek Fox. Nā Fox mā i kimi ngā huruhuru e rere ai tēnei manu ki te hunga pānui. Ki tā ōna kaitautoko, me momoho ake tōna tū i ngā moheni auraki. I kōrero a Fox mō te whai hiranga kia whakaatu i ngā kōrero papai mō te iwi Māori, he mahi kīhai i whakaaturia i ngā whakaputanga auraki. I te tau 2014 ka riro a Mana i a Kowhai Media, te kaiwhakaputa o New Zealand Geographic. I taua tau ka whakarewaina houtia te moheni, ā, ka tautokona atu ki te pae ipurangi me ētahi taupānga.
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